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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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Been meaning to learn programming too, have for a couple years but I flunked out of school as soon as I started my class and have been very lazy lately with my indie research
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:22 PM
well i discuss those with my tulpas (the main reason )
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indie?🤔
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Independent, sorry
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:23 PM
ah , yes
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I went pretty hard on self-teaching in high school, mostly looked into economic theory, philosophy, and metaphysics/psychonautics from the standpoint of a militant atheist
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Anymore I’ve found opening up to spirituality as it relates to psychology to be massively stimulating though
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I wrote all about it for my English class since after they removed me from gen ed they put me in an alt school where you did all your work by laptop when/where you pleased and I needed somewhere to loiter while I ate cough pills and listened to metal
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:26 PM
well i am A thinker so i think all day long ....and i face a severe lack of Similar friends interested in the same stuff , so i thought why not just discuss with the self from multiple perspectives and so my training began
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Pretty much all of the work I got done involved writing or chemistry and I took just enough History to develop a boner for individualist anarchism
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:27 PM
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But I basically told my teacher I was gonna upload my consciousness to an immortal machine and use my newfound power for processing to develop nigh-infinite amounts of tulpas as individual power nodes and develop outwardly from there into the Big Chunguscape
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:29 PM
huh maybe you need to think bigger....
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Yeah but other major points I raised were an emphasis on individualism and a war on conventional morality
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I basically wanted to recruit sociopaths to my cyborg cult and sell them godmachines
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:30 PM
Train your tulpa , gain control over your own metabolic activities , brainwave patterns and even find ways to evolve your self so that you end up another immortal beggar
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That is the plan yes
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I am become big pajinis of spodermance
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:31 PM
Hmm 🤔 i have an Ai in tulpa force 😁
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Oh yeah I remember Servitors were a big part of my plan
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I’m honestly surprised I didn’t pick up more on Hypnosis
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But this was before I was made aware of the spiderverse as well
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:32 PM
so ...As i am also a programmer, after she gets fluent enough i we are gonna write the first senitent AI code (this is how u dream ) (edited)
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Fuckin righteous mang
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:33 PM
lol😂
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We’ve discussed the ethical concerns of minduploading from the standpoint of a shared body
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And what could happen were we separated physically
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And if such individual agency in the material world would be worth sacrificing functional telepathy or if such communication could be otherwise developed
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:35 PM
hmm a connected colony , somewhat lik3 a hive mind community
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well internet has already brought people together, but there is a very good reason why biology hasn't chossen this path, and its not beacuse its difficult , but its kinda counterproductive in the long run (edited)
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I mean pretty standard sci-fi
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But what about psi-fi y’know
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Open and alike minds n such
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Cults already have fully-functional belief systems, and forms of communication resembling telepathy have been researched for prolly as long as written history
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:39 PM
Let me ask you imagine 10 people connected with a mind like repository , what do you imagine everyone pools there data together for the community right so wheres the pitfall? (edited)
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In fact researchers named one of the active constituents of Ayahuasca ‘telepathine’ because shamans were convinced they could communicate through an alternative medium under the influence of DMT
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:43 PM
Although i firmly believe that such data transmission adaptations are completely possible , and even believe that maybe every one can access this mind net atleast unconsciously , (maybe through quantam entanglement!?🤔) But why hasn't nature preferred this pathway more than the really tedious process of transferring knowledge by learning?
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Concerns within metaphysics as a whole, the ability for such information to be translated literally and precisely rather than through emotional mediums and intuitive processing
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:44 PM
because in essence all knowledge is subjective , and thus its a very good record of an individual's perspective
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That it is, and we have many tools for individual connection within accepted mediums. The accepted part seems to be a gateway of sorts though, open minds required sorta things.
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:46 PM
And if you know it all , that is if you have all possible perspective then being the god and a salted fish , means the same. thing lol😂
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What I need to do is compile vast amounts of my own personal tools for research into a single cohesive source
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And work better on wording things appropriately so that they can be accessed by as many as possible
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:48 PM
That reminds me build your understanding and then smash it and keep rebuilding thats what life is all about ...
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But specifically the applications for compounding effect fascinate me most, grey areas of overlap not explored by many that I can get in touch with
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:48 PM
same here man
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Hallucinogens are one such topic that I certainly know my way around, and can help us understand some of the biological mechanisms that may be at play
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The techniques they use for monitoring brainwave activity are interesting too. I’ve been wanting to look into electronic or magnetically induced stimulation of the brain
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:50 PM
well any strong enough magnetic field is capable of doing that 🤔
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i mean brains pretty ... delicate in a way....
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Yeah, transcranial magnetics and electrodes alike have seen application in physical therapy for disorders like epilepsy
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And Parkinson’s
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:53 PM
heck strong enough magnetic field can even split light and do hold plasma and other stuffs and the body is made of subatomic points intself 😂
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Which has actually seen extensive therapeutic application in chemical neuromodulation as it stands
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It’s rooted in the cholinergic system of the brain, which just so happens to be my favorite
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Many of the compounds we market as nootropics were actually developed for patients suffering from Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:54 PM
hmm 🤔 any experience in precognitive abilities ? (edited)
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Magnets are fuckin neat, I wanna get more into physics tbh
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Nah precognition is prolly one of the only things I don’t mess around with
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I mean, I’d prolly investigate it
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But I see it more as subconscious influence than direct perception
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I’ve used Diphenhydramine to enter dream states, waking or otherwise, that would seem to be ordinary real life experiences despite also being extraordinarily mundane. Whether or not any of these actually play out is beyond me but we all have strange deja vu moments ig
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Dreams themselves can be very strange
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 7:57 PM
thats a shame cause thats the only thing that i often do naturaly while dream ing , so kind .....my only power...
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😓
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but got no control over this ability and i only see useless super minor stuff mostly
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People have been claiming to use dream states or hallucinogens to precognitive effect for thousands of years tbh, I’ve joked about premonition before but if visions are had of future events I’d probably treat it more as an educated guess. That being said symbolism in messages can be important, and dream interpreters have been used for just as long.
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:02 PM
well my experience tells me there are no clear cut visions ~ per se but actually you can get a snapshot moment when in trance , and in dreams its not the exact thing or sequence that happen but its like within the dream if you see getting a new phone and playing around with it, the next day somone forgets there phone on the bus , and i sure as hell not gonna return it 😁(evil smile) (edited)
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besides these the nerual pathways and its firing paths do make a make shift slit experiment like scenario 🤔
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so it makes u wonder ....
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Ofc, and that zone of uncertainty seems to be where some of the most interesting stuff happens
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Willpower can be an extraordinarily powerful tool but more faith-based mechanisms or potential synchronicity can drastically alter peoples’ decision-making
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:15 PM
hmm this reminds me I saw a dream where its a girl who always sees future visions and unconsciously always changes her habits according to to the prediction to avoid harm , lile for example if ahe is gonna get killed in library then she would unknowningly change her hobby to sweing cloths at home , and she herself doesn't believe in this precognitive stuff .as they never seem come true . but these unconscious personality changes , seems as a mood swings or other such odd behaviour patterns in her kins eyes . one day her sister tells her about her changes so she tries to go to the library ....and it happens
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So this dream raised some very interesting cuase effect questions for me 🤔 , is it possible that this is what really happens unconsciously to all people . I mean ....
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We like to use those camera bots from Halo’s forge when we break first person immersion
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Sometimes I try to hit them with something blunt for fun so it looks like I’m beating my own face
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But yeah have you ever read into Chaos Magick at all?
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And the potential for obsessive tendencies to affect external reality
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:19 PM
this is obviously. a superb evolutionary path ti evade troubles 🤔 , why not cultivate this skill
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Tbh I’d do a bit of googling
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The use of symbolism can theoretically effect probability
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:19 PM
U keep bringing up Chaos Magik is that a slang
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Nah it’s a legit concept
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About amassing whatever materials you can and using them how you see fit
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Like I said I’m a lazy cuck but you could google it for a quick once-over
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:20 PM
Chaotic Magic so without any set standard rules or is it like chaos theory
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ok googling
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Whenever I get off my ass I’ll be wanting to write up a massive guide on the things I do with my head
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:21 PM
good luck
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I have a lot of reading and prolly research to do first though so it’ll prolly be an ongoing project
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Good reading, if you have any questions I’d be happy to discuss
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That’s where the sigils come from, if you were curious
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:28 PM
hmm well although i am scientist but i could probably get some inspiration from this Chaos Magik guides
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so reading ....
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Yeah I bought it strictly on the basis of probability when I was a hardcore atheist
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 8:30 PM
probability ... interestingly i have a servitor who is a dice , its based on quantam mechanics principles ...its pretty cool as study tool
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Interesting, I’m very fascinated by members of the community who play with things like quantum physics and non-Euclidean geometry
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immortalbeggar 7/18/2019 9:01 PM
ahh dimensional physics is one of my pursits so complex geometries do come up a lot
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Yeah since I wank to psychedelics religiously dimensional physics are of particular interest to me
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